I see no evidence or reason at all how the decentralised internet stops radicalisation or misinformation. If those are the only places they can get new converts, they are not going to be wildly successful. Cool stuff! [45] Senator Specter decided to go forward with the hearings anyway. It's a long movie but, then again, it's based on a long book and it needs a certain amount of time to properly tell the story so, in my opinion, this is not a drawback. However, maybe I'm misreading you, but it seems like you might be implying that since we don't have democracy anyway, censorship is fine? Capitalism and a free market are pretty much orthogonally related (consider, if you will, the ideal capitalist state in which a single capitalist controls 100% of the market). Citation needed? (p.s. ... Bangbros Bubble Butts, Hookup Hotshot, Extreme Movie Pass, Porn Pros, Cam Soda, Puba, Pure Taboo Official, ... Abella Danger - Click here to view all 1,894 videos. Decidedly working for non-rich causes. It's always the first stepping stone. The whole point of reformist socialism is that you should not try to get there in a single giant leap, but step by step, with the fully socialist society more of a Platonic ideal: There'll likely always be a next thing to fix. ", This page was last edited on 12 February 2021, at 15:20. > They’re not wrong! Sorry for the stereotyping, but this is such a German comment and so short-sighted that if I get into a long response to it my blood will boil a little. The original Spy Kids movie grossed $112.7 million at American and Canadian box offices and $147.9 million worldwide. I am not in favor of global censorship as I feel the harm outweighs the good. A decentralizalized internet means configuring your router to peer with routers in the houses that you can see from your house. Both can coexist. I just feel bad for the cop who lost his life, and his family. Some people go crazy without jobs; I'm creative and self-driven so I make all kinds of stuff by myself. Nor could the interviewee recall, when questioned, any details about how he thought a link to Atta could have been made by this DOD program in 2000 or any time before 9/11. If the "baddies" self-censored, we wouldn't be having this discussion. Pearl clutching aside, I wouldn't even call it a "violent protest", much less a coup... >Pearl clutching aside, I wouldn't even call it a "violent protest", much less a coup... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhjRXO72v1s. Germany's power was centralized - Hitler was its dictator. Then it sort of works fpr couple of decades. Ask them to explain, if these were organized far right militants trying to overthrow the government in the most heavily guarded city in the world, in a building that has it's own heavily armed police force, how come they didn't bring guns? There's nothing stoping (fascists/communits/liberals/$_YOURBOOGYMAN) to identify decentralised networks, connect to all of them, participate and run a propaganda campaign through a centralised unit that connects to all the decentralised networks. It would appear, particularly given the Defense Department's outright refusal to allow those involved with Able Danger to testify today, that an obstructionist attitude exists. Pacific Rim is a 2013 American science fiction monster film directed by Guillermo del Toro, starring Charlie Hunnam, Idris Elba, Rinko Kikuchi, Charlie Day, Robert Kazinsky, Max Martini, Ron Perlman, and Mana Ashida, and the first film in the Pacific Rim franchise. Sure, excellent. Anyways what I am trying to say is that just as in chemistry actions will have reactions. 1.3K likes. The challenge is: how? Gorton also asserted that "the wall" was a long-standing policy that had resulted from the Church Committee in the 1970s, and that the policy only prohibits transfer of certain information from prosecutors to the intelligence services and never prohibited information flowing in the opposite direction[citation needed]. 10. There are many reasons to want a diffusion of power, but defending democracy is not one of them. To me this sounds like you made an excellent argument for. Witnesses reported telling Philip Zelikow, executive director of the 9/11 Commission, that Able Danger had identified Atta well before the 9/11 attacks, but Zelikow showed no interest in their testimony. No doubt capitalist extremists want centralized services too because they can convert everyone to their ideology, consumerism. People stuck in this "welfare trap" could actually work a little to improve their standing. Even after collapse we'd have probably lost everyone except the most brutal selfish individuals and therefore we'd have to again first go through similar phases of central power structure ... (as you might be able to tell) this is of great interest to me so if you have any reading recommendations I'd appreciate them (thanks). Take a look for what the state labels as crooks, outlaws, degenerates, pirates, insurgents, terrorists, or anyone they are struggling to tax and prosecute, ... in modern times Roma/gypsies are the only ones left who come to mind. You also seem to think that decentralization would lead to less emphasis on local happenings. The upside of that maybe there is more awareness of what is going on. In addition to the evident chaos and danger… A Time magazine article dated August 14, 2005, reports that Weldon admitted he is no longer sure that Atta's name was on the chart he presented to Hadley and that he was unable to verify whether this was the case, having handed over his only copy, and that a reconstruction was used for post-9/11 presentations. Thanks. There is a sizable political national-socialist sentiment (a little worrying even). The super rich can now lobby and pay Twitter/Facebook/etc in order to pass their policies. Canadian historian Francis Dupuis-Déri writing in the book "Démocratie: Histoire politique d’un mot aux États-Unis et en France": "During the Middle Ages and the Renaissance, thousands of villages had an organized assembly where communal decisions were made. The Senate Committee said its findings were consistent with those of the DoD inspector general, released in September 2006. There is more defining Socialism than just healthcare. Yup. In fact, you can make it 0 censorship platform where the words of bad behaviour is actually preserved like a relic of the time, a proof, a historical record. It's really big tech "social media" that offers this promise of unsophisticated users connecting with socially-distant low-reputation nyms as if they are other good-faith individuals (ie non-Sybil), essentially filling in the companies own reputation in their place. This gives an incentive to vote for opportunistic demagogues. It's the accumulation of wealth. No information obtained at the time would have led anyone to believe criminal activity had taken place or that any specific terrorist activities were being planned. The alleged distortions of the IG report centered around excluding any evidence that Able Danger had identified and tracked Atta years before 9/11. Am certain we've all had experience with a peculiar post and go - "If it weren't for my boss following me back on my feeds I would have shared controversial view X, but hey am glad someone else said it.". I am glad to see the community continually re-discover this site now and again. Danger days. [4], The Senate panel of investigators said there was no evidence DoD lawyers stopped analysts from sharing findings with the FBI before the attacks. In Finland, a more socialist republic, speeding tickets are proportional to income. I think we should stop running away from the fact that we are human. Is it easier on a centralized platform or across thousands of federated instances, each with their own moderator? I was objecting to the extreme situation in the middle age where in theory, war was a god given right that flowed from the top. Saved by Samantha Sinioris. Those associations could have been completely innocuous or nefarious. There's a whole area of philosophical and economic research dedicated to what extent this is a good question - distributive justice and the theory of exploitation. Empathy works as long as you don't create a us vs them situation. Anyways the current discussions about whether or not to "deplatform" the far-right remind me a little of these debates in the 90's. With enough distribution of power, true, un-hijacked-by-lobby, democracy is possible and this will not happen. Demon Days is the second studio album by English virtual band Gorillaz.It was first released on 11 May 2005 in Japan and on 23 May 2005 in the United Kingdom by Parlophone and in the United States by Virgin Records.Produced by the band, Danger Mouse, Jason Cox, and James Dring, the album features contributions from De La Soul, Neneh Cherry, Martina Topley-Bird, Roots … If the only argument is that it's "not necessarily" the case, we'd have just as much of a case against some forms of markets in that they may satisfy consumer preferences as they create those preferences, not to other advantages. Strong Political Commitment at the Higher Levels, 4. See how much lobbying goes on in and around the power centers of this world: DC, Brussels, London. [56] "Specifically, the DIA wanted references to a meeting between Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer, the book's author, and the executive director of the 9/11 Commission, Philip Zelikow, removed". The Internet used to be decentralized and only after communication centralized via social media companies did the likes of QAnon become particularly problematic. I agree that Singapore is a hellish dystopia, but Switzerland's referenda and its strong stance on not going to war (but keeping a strong army for defense) are undeniable attractive points. To summarize Hayek's case in point, his reason was that, as requests to process tasks make their way up to bureaucracy, information about the granularities and complexities of the needs are lost. These are the very same platform that gave fascists megaphones to increase engagement metrics for their business models. Frequently, federal politicians pursue policies beneficial for their home state. Democracy is already damaged by the lack of democratic control even if a centralized power chooses not to harm it any further (the fact that they even have this choice is evidence of the damage). “Decentralization”, the widely used term is a congregation of ill which cannot survive the scrutiny of public IMO. Democracy is to place power into the hands of each individual, every form of centralized power necessarily pulls this power away from people and into the hands of a limited number of individuals. I would however mention that we converse in English, on a US website. It also would require an unrealistic "deprogramming" of society which makes the idea just another utopia (at least not achievable without huge sacrifice to what we hold dear today). Speaking on behalf of Lt. Col. Shaffer, attorney Mark Zaid testified "Those within Able Danger were confident they weren't compiling information on US persons. Healthcare is a common one, but there's others - power generation, transit, education, etc. "[47], Former Army Major Erik Kleinsmith, former head of the Pentagon's Land Warfare Analysis Department, testified at the hearing that he had been instructed to destroy data and documents related to Able Danger in May and June 2000. So who performs the oversight over the tech monopolies? It is a mechanism that keeps check on the bounds of prices and efficiency. So democracy is a hollow word, or worse: a facade, a lie. In general I think it's a universal truth that things are fundamentally and nonlinearly more difficult at scale. Lobbying is a form of corruption unique to politicians, but it's just as possible that someone who has access to everyone's data via the CLOUD act uses such data in a corrupt way, or sells their access to that data to the highest bidder. But companies do exactly what you have described in the EU, take a look at the financial shenanigans that Ireland and several big companies have been involved in. Already we complain that the more niche ideas can be more successful in the US because there's a larger home market. I think this is a very compelling point, and much better than most of the "fediverse is for freedom" talking points I have seen on HN: I agree with your assertion. Capitalism and socialism, on the other hand, are very vague terms, and I think the many discussions here prove that. "There were two sets, classified and unclassified, and also an 'all sorts,'" which contained a blend of the two, "plus charts we'd produced." What’s the evidence this is the case? Complaining has always solved all issues for me, but it takes two weeks minimum to get an answer. The objective of this particular project was to ascertain whether the data mining techniques and open source material were effective tools in determining terrorist activities, and if the resultant data could be used to create operational plans that could be executed in a timely fashion to interrupt, capture and/or destroy terrorists or their cells. If there were thousands of decentralised social networks, QAnon could have used Buffer to manage their presence in all of them. For politicians and corporations and pundits it's just fine. allies. If you'd like, I'm sure there are referendums and initiatives that are directly voted on that I could dig up. The reason that unbeliever often complain about all the hypocrites in the church is that there are a lot of hypocrites in the church! 1. Depends on the country: The parties are still called 'socialist' to this day in Albania, Belgium, Bulgaria, France, Greece, Hungary, Italy, Luxembourg, Portugal, Spain. And what we know is that Mohamed Atta sent his first email to friends in the U.S. in March 2000 and received his first U.S. visa on May 18, 2000. There's plenty of scholarly work both from libertarian socialism, anarchism and defences of socialism from liberal principles; I'd recommend G.A. Since you mention Turkey, look at the current government's suppression of journalism. For example in feudal Europe and later on, Europe was divided into very small states ruled by tyrants. QAnon has made it into the halls of congress, literally in the form of the now infamous 'Q Shaman' but also in the form of elected representatives[1], it's made it to Harvard educated now socially isolated loners who are part of groups that encompass hundreds of thousands[2], and it has even made it to my homecountry[3], where it is co-mingling with anti-vaxers and covid-deniers. In fact I've only seen the term being used for ActivityPub and Diaspora. Like, say, Turkey? The more bureaucracy the less effective the service delivery. (possibly exaggerated, don't recall exact amounts). If some countries do their own thing, then I would like my country to be separate entirely. Take, for example, a country where the majority of things are privately run but are heavily taxed by the government. I agree that lobbies have far more power than citizens, and that this is a problem. Which might be measured as the proportion of wealth owned by the wealthiest few, and the rest of the peoples. The power was highly local but this did not result in more freedom for the people. I don't think lobbying is a symptom of centralization. The Able Danger program was not terminated prematurely. CMSD on CW43. Unused budget best withdrawn from an ATM and stashed in the matress. It is most unlikely that Able Danger would have identified a terrorist called "Mohamed Atta" before May 2000. I think their overall point is that it's possible to have sectors of the economy non-privately owned. The sad reality is that humanity is not ready for something like the Internet. Other 'speech' laws in germany make verbally insulting others fineable, because human dignity is the fundamental principle of the German constitution. Definitely going to spend some time It would be harder to lobby in dozens of international jurisdictions, for example, they’d have a hard time imposing western values in Turkey or Iran, for example and vice versa, which I think we’d be better off with. Europeans often follow the classical definition of socialism: non private ownership of means if production. I started to try to understand this debate through a political lens, since it seems so many political people are interested in it's answer. Americans convey a lot of meaning by using single words. BTW, the media situation in Turkey is much more complicated than your mental model of censorship. Again, probably not your intended meaning, but I wanted to address it anyway. It is a spectrum. What is the X you see? If a terrorist tries to create converts in Walmart it takes 10 minutes until the police shows up. Kleinsmith deleted the 2.5 terabytes of data in May and June, 2000, on orders of Tony Gentry, general counsel of the Army Intelligence and Security Command. He was also able to entrance its citizens into dancing through his musical machine. The Pentagon describes the witnesses as "credible" but stated that the document which allegedly mentioned Atta could not be found. Are you saying these countries would be better off outside of the EU? The police isn't chasing journalist as much as main stream journalism becoming non-existent and simply being a negotiation tool for people who fight for power. But the main question should be: why? 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